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alexan.staley@LIGO.ORG - posted 16:03, Tuesday 08 April 2014 - last comment - 16:52, Friday 11 April 2014(11228)
HEPI and ISI ETMX Tripped

(Rich M, Sheila, Alexa)

 

HEPI and ISI ETMX tripped because we were playing with the suspension watchdogs.

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sheila.dwyer@LIGO.ORG - 17:47, Tuesday 08 April 2014 (11233)

We had a hard time recovering from this trip which caused several more trips, the wd plotting script is not working this afternoon, possibly beause of our network problems so we don't have any plots.  Once HEPI was isolated, we tried letting guardian isolate the ISI. It tripped immediately on CPSs (stage1) after we cleared this and tried again it tripped on GS13 (stage2). 

We then paused the guardian, moved all the blends to start, and gave the gaurdian another try. (note, the ground motion is fairly quiet today).  This tripped again, GS13s. 

We then puased the guardian, and tried the command script, stage 1 level 3, tripped on the actuator limit.  I then stopped taking notes. 

The rough procedure that Rich used to bring it back was damping both stages, turning on 1 DOF at a time RX, RY, Z, RZ, X, Y (stage 1 first, then stage 2).  Then Alexa moved the blends over to Tbetter without anything tripping. 

We don't know why the things that used to work don't anymore, but now ETMX ISI is harder to untrip and neither the guardian nor the command script seem to be able to do it anymore. 

Rich may not have mentioned in the alog, but after our trip the other day while trying to switch blends, he changed the filters from zero crossing to ramp, which should make it easier to switch blends without tripping the ISIs. 

One thing about guardian, its not clear to me how we should unpause if we need to pause it for some reason.  TO pause it we paused all three, stage 1, stage2 and the manager.  Wen unpausing the subpodinates they don't come back in managed mode.  I was able to get them back to managed mode by going to init on all three, but in the meantime they were doing their own thing, but happily didn't trip the ISI.  What is the best way to do this?  Also, maybe the right way to pause and unpause a manager with subordinates is something that needs to be made more obvious to a user. 

Alexa also tried pausing, she only paused the manager, bringing that back was not a problem but it doesn't pause the subordinates.

jameson.rollins@LIGO.ORG - 11:41, Wednesday 09 April 2014 (11246)

quoth Sheila:

We don't know why the things that used to work don't anymore, but now ETMX ISI is harder to untrip and neither the guardian nor the command script seem to be able to do it anymore. 

But you did mention one likely important thing that changed: new blend filters (Tbetter?).  What happens if we go back to Tcrappy?  Do we have the same problems?

also quoth Sheila:

One thing about guardian, its not clear to me how we should unpause if we need to pause it for some reason.  TO pause it we paused all three, stage 1, stage2 and the manager.  Wen unpausing the subpodinates they don't come back in managed mode.  I was able to get them back to managed mode by going to init on all three, but in the meantime they were doing their own thing, but happily didn't trip the ISI.  What is the best way to do this?  Also, maybe the right way to pause and unpause a manager with subordinates is something that needs to be made more obvious to a user.

Alexa also tried pausing, she only paused the manager, bringing that back was not a problem but it doesn't pause the subordinates.

This is definitely sounds like something that could be improved.  It is true that all nodes, manager and subordinates, need to independenty be paused and unpaused.   I'll try to think about how to make that smoother.  In the mean time, here's the procedure that should be used:

  1. pause the manager
  2. pause each of the subordinates (ISI_ST1/2).  order does not matter
  3. ...do work...
  4. request the INIT state in the manager while it's still paused
  5. unpause the manager

The manager INIT state resets all the works, restarts them, and puts them into managed mode.  That should be the most straightforward way to do things for the moment.

sheila.dwyer@LIGO.ORG - 12:19, Wednesday 09 April 2014 (11248)

Thanks Jamie.  

We did try both the command script and guardian with all the blends on start, which used to work.  I don't think we tried turning sensor correction off, which is another change.  

stefan.ballmer@LIGO.ORG - 16:52, Friday 11 April 2014 (11301)SEI
I heard that rumors were spread that this alog was written during an earthquake that we hadn't noticed, so there is no reason to worry about our inability to use guardian or the command scripts to reisolate ETMX.  

That is false, there was no earthquake.  

PS, this is sheila, still loged in as Stefan. 
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