J. Kissel Was looking to restart the frame builder now that ISC folks no longer need it (for ~5 minutes while the h1dc0 reboots), telnet'ed in, ]$ telnet h1cd0 8087 and restarted it, daqd> shutdown and unlike what happens normally, everything with the data concentrator stayed white, and all front ends DAQ lights went red, and neither came back. This is what happens when you get greedy, and assume the CDS system will behave as you expect it to -- especially if you're me! I've left a voicemail with Dave.