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keita.kawabe@LIGO.ORG - posted 02:04, Thursday 11 June 2015 - last comment - 04:46, Thursday 11 June 2015(19060)
Charging localization measurement (Leo, Betsy, Evan, Kiwamu, Daniel, Keita)

Related:

Den's alog 16624

Den's alog 16727

Summary:

Many things are dubious.

  1. EX LL ESD is broken as the ESD to length response is 3 orders of magnitude smaller than the others. Probably shoddy connection somewhere between the driver and the ESD electrode, as the voltage readback looks normal.
  2. It looks as if either the sign of EX ESD output is flipped (positive digital out induces negative voltage) or the sign of EY ESD output is flipped but not both.
  3. I'm just assuming that the sign convention for CAL-CS_DARM_EXTERNAL_DQ is length(X)-length(Y), and that it's correct, without any confirmation.

Despite these things, it seems as if the charges on the back are on the same order as reported in Den's alog 16624.

If we assume that the sign of EY ESD is wrong and we still take 1. into account, the charges are calculated as:

  front back
X 4.4nC 1.1nC
Y 2.2nC 1.2nC

This looks semi-reasonable.

If we assume that the sign of EX ESD is wrong and we still take 1. into account, the charges are:

  front back
X 5.7nC -0.9nC
Y -6nC -0.4nC

I don't like that the signs are all over the place.

If we assume that everything is correct except that the EX LL is broken (i.e. we ignore the 2. above but take 1. into account), the charges based on are:

  front back
X 4.4nC 1.1nC
Y -6nC -0.4nC

Again the signs are all over the place.

These are based on the same calculation as Den's alog 16624.

I'm assuming that the sign convention of CAL-CS_DARM_EXTERNAL_DQ is length(X)-length(Y) (i.e. positive when X stretches and Y shrinks).

Anyway, no matter how you look at the data, the back surface charges are quite similar to what was reported in Den's alog (except for the signs that don't make much sense for the latter two tables).

We tried similar measurements as described in Den's alog 16727 but the angle data for X was unusable (no coherence at all). If you're interested in Y data, all measurements were saved in Betsy's template directory.

 

The gist of the measurements:

Differences between EX and EY measurements:

Fishy sign of ESDs (Go to the floor and figure out):

EY ESD length drivealign matrix has a negative DC gain while the corresponding matrix for EX is positive even though the LSC DARM output matrix already takes care of the sign difference necessary for DARM control for EX and EY.

It looks as if either the bias line has a wrong sign for one ETM but not the other, or LL/LR/UL/UR lines have a wrong sign for one ETM but not the other.

Raw-ish data and calculations:

Measured the zero-bias transfer coefficients from ESD segments and the ring heater (top and bottom combined) to the calibrated DARM channel in meters/volts at around 80Hz. After taking the TF of the drivers and the DAC V/cts into account, they are:

  LL [m/V] LR [m/V] UL [m/V] UR [m/V] ESD combined [m/V] Ring Heater [m/V]
EX +1.3E-18 +2.2E-15 +1.0E-15 +5.6E-16 +3.8E-15 * 4/3 -6.7E-16
EY +5.6E-16 +6.5E-16 +1.4E-15 +1.5E-15 +4.1E-15 +1.9E-15

Positive data is actually about 24 deg (Y arm) or 30 deg (X arm) delayed, while negative data is about 210 deg (X arm) delayed.

EX LL is not working. Coherence is very large, the voltage readback looks OK, but it has 3 orders of magnitude smaller response than the others. EX LL did not change much when the nominal EX ESD bias was put back on.

I multiplied the ESD combined data by 4/3 only for EX to take into account that the EX LL driver is not working.

Force to length transfer function at 80Hz is -1/M/(2*pi*80Hz)^2 = -1E-7[m/N] (negative as the phase is 180 degrees relative to DC).

Also, the above is the TF to DARM, which is supposed to be X length - Y length. In order to move to a sign convention where positive means that the ETM moves closer to ITM, the sign of the X data should be flipped.

Combining these, the above raw-ish data is converted to N/V as:

  LL [N/V] LR [N/V] UL [N/V] UR [N/V] ESD combined [N/V] Ring Heater [N/V]
EX +1.3E-11 +2.2E-8 +1.0E-8 +5.6E-9 +3.8E-8 * 4/3 -6.7E-9
EY -5.6E-9 -6.5E-9 -1.4E-8 -1.5E-8 -4.1E-8 -1.9E-8

The signs of this table don't really make sense (positive ESD electrode potential should move ETMX and ETMY in the same direction if the charge has the same sign).

Anyway, from here, you solve Den's rough formula:

FRH / VRH = Afront Qfront + Aback Qback

FESD / VESD = Bfront Qfront + Bback Qback

Afront = 1 / 0.20 [1/m] ; Aback = -1 / 0.04 [1/m] 

Bfront = 1 / 0.20 [1/m] ; Bback = 1 / 0.04 [1/m]

Comments related to this report
rainer.weiss@LIGO.ORG - 04:46, Thursday 11 June 2015 (19063)
It is too confusing to be sure. My guess is also that there is charge on the back of the test mass. So let me suggest
that since you are now going to enter the chamber and use the top gun that the 10"flange with the off-axis nipple
be mounted on both x and y etm chambers with the associated small gate valves so that we have this capability
of best location for discharge in the future. Do not remove the gate valves from the middle flanges.
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