I was able to confirm that LSC-DARM_IN1 does see the lockloss before ASC-AS_A_DC_NSUM_OUT does (attachment1), which had been brought up by TJ (72890), but I want to clarify that this isn't a recent occurance - these locklosses from July 27th(attachment2) and August 10th(attachment3) also show the lockloss in DARM_IN1 a few milliseconds before the light falls off the AS_A photodiode.
In the case of this lockloss, I could not find an obvious cause, but since there was an EX callout right before the lockloss I looked into the ETMX suspension channels that we had looked into a bit yesterday (72896).
The lockloss was seen in DARM and the DCPDs before being seen in ETMX_L3_MASTER_OUT_{UL,UR,LL,LR}_DQ channels (attachment4), followed by the AS_A channel later. However, SUS-ETMX_L3_MASTER_OUT... goes through a few filters/functions before arriving at this reading and so might have a higher latency than the DARM and DCPD channels.
The EX glitch occurred ~700ms before DARM saw the lockloss, and similarly, it was seen in DARM and the DCPDs before the ETMX L3 channels (attachment5). Not sure if this glitch could cause a lockloss (at least not on its own), since we have had glitches this big (and much bigger) in ETMX that were also seen in DARM but did not cause a lockloss, see attachment6 for an example from almost a day earlier.
Thinking about what Camilla said in (72896) "ETMX moving would cause a DARM glitch (so the DARM BLRMs to increase) or vice versa, DARM changing would cause ETMX to try to follow", in this case depending on the latency either could still be true but I don't see why we would lose lock from a (relatively) mid-size saturation but hold on during a larger one unless there was some other factor (which I guess there probably usually is).
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oli.patane@LIGO.ORG - 17:01, Saturday 16 September 2023 (72919)
Lost lock after going through ACQUIRE_PRMI three times, so I decided to run an initial alignment. Initial alignment completed fine and we started locking and moving through states quickly, but then we lost lock at OFFLOAD_DRMI_ASC. I let it try locking again and everything was fine, so seems like that OFFLOAD_DRMI_ASC lockloss was just a one-off strange lockloss.
18:41 Observing
I was able to confirm that LSC-DARM_IN1 does see the lockloss before ASC-AS_A_DC_NSUM_OUT does (attachment1), which had been brought up by TJ (72890), but I want to clarify that this isn't a recent occurance - these locklosses from July 27th(attachment2) and August 10th(attachment3) also show the lockloss in DARM_IN1 a few milliseconds before the light falls off the AS_A photodiode.
In the case of this lockloss, I could not find an obvious cause, but since there was an EX callout right before the lockloss I looked into the ETMX suspension channels that we had looked into a bit yesterday (72896).
The lockloss was seen in DARM and the DCPDs before being seen in ETMX_L3_MASTER_OUT_{UL,UR,LL,LR}_DQ channels (attachment4), followed by the AS_A channel later. However, SUS-ETMX_L3_MASTER_OUT... goes through a few filters/functions before arriving at this reading and so might have a higher latency than the DARM and DCPD channels.
The EX glitch occurred ~700ms before DARM saw the lockloss, and similarly, it was seen in DARM and the DCPDs before the ETMX L3 channels (attachment5). Not sure if this glitch could cause a lockloss (at least not on its own), since we have had glitches this big (and much bigger) in ETMX that were also seen in DARM but did not cause a lockloss, see attachment6 for an example from almost a day earlier.
Thinking about what Camilla said in (72896) "ETMX moving would cause a DARM glitch (so the DARM BLRMs to increase) or vice versa, DARM changing would cause ETMX to try to follow", in this case depending on the latency either could still be true but I don't see why we would lose lock from a (relatively) mid-size saturation but hold on during a larger one unless there was some other factor (which I guess there probably usually is).
Relocking after this lockloss:
Lost lock after going through ACQUIRE_PRMI three times, so I decided to run an initial alignment. Initial alignment completed fine and we started locking and moving through states quickly, but then we lost lock at OFFLOAD_DRMI_ASC. I let it try locking again and everything was fine, so seems like that OFFLOAD_DRMI_ASC lockloss was just a one-off strange lockloss.