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H1 ISC
alexan.staley@LIGO.ORG - posted 02:42, Wednesday 11 February 2015 - last comment - 15:13, Wednesday 11 February 2015(16628)
Just shy of 2 hour lock

Sheila, Dan, Daniel, Evan Jeff, Lisa, Alexa

 

Starting at 08:43:06 UTC Feb 11, 2015 we had a DC lock for ~1:54min. We lost lock again because of the 9 Hz bounce mode in ETMY. We had tried damping with the L2 stage, which helped a bit but still ultimately caused the lock loss.  Tomorrow we should try damping with M0, as done at LLO (LLO#16686).

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evan.hall@LIGO.ORG - 02:59, Wednesday 11 February 2015 (16629)

Sheila has pointed out that we might as well notch out the bounce mode resonances in the DHARD WFS loops. So now there is a 9.8 Hz stopband filter installed in FM9 of DHARD_P and (in an abundance of caution) in DHARD_Y.

rainer.weiss@LIGO.ORG - 07:28, Wednesday 11 February 2015 (16634)
Nice going with all the long lock segments. Once something is working
you learn a great deal quickly. 
daniel.hoak@LIGO.ORG - 15:13, Wednesday 11 February 2015 (16659)

Some important times from the lock:

Lock sequence started at ~8:17 UTC when arms locked on green

Handoff to POPAIR at 8:27 UTC (this is the last step in the ISC Guardian before the handoff to DC readout - see LSC matrix element 3_10 in the attached plot)

DARM offset applied and OMC locked at 8:40

DARM handoff to DC readout at 8:44

Lock lost at 10:36 UTC

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H1 ISC (DetChar)
sheila.dwyer@LIGO.ORG - posted 01:03, Wednesday 11 February 2015 - last comment - 08:08, Wednesday 11 February 2015(16626)
Spectrogram of DARM ERR?

We have seen in our two DC readout locks tonight what looks like it could be a fringe wrapping shelf in DARM. 

We transitioned to DC readout at 8:43:06 UTC Feb 11 and it is still locked.  If anyone could make a spectrogram of LSC-DARM_ERR durring this time, that would be interesting.  We made an attempt to do this using ldvweb, but didn't suceed yet.  

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thomas.massinger@LIGO.ORG - 05:11, Wednesday 11 February 2015 (16632)DetChar
I've attached 4 spectrograms of DARM_IN1_DQ:

1. 20 minutes elapsed
2. 20 minutes elapsed normalized (divided by median ASD)
3. 1 hour elapsed
4. 1 hour elapsed normalized

I'd be happy to make a few more if ldvw is still being problematic for you.
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duncan.macleod@LIGO.ORG - 08:08, Wednesday 11 February 2015 (16640)

The summary pages are automatically generating calibrated spectra/spectrograms of the CARM and DARM error signals whenever the ISC_LOCK guardian is 'OK'.

H1 ISC
daniel.hoak@LIGO.ORG - posted 23:42, Tuesday 10 February 2015 - last comment - 07:49, Wednesday 11 February 2015(16620)
IFO locked on DC readout

Alexa Daniel Dan Evan Jeff Lisa Sheila (+ many others)

Like a coffee hipster who won't touch beans that haven't passed through a civet, the IFO now measures DARM_ERR with the light transmitted through the OMC.

 

After the BS WFS were commissioned earlier today, we had several steady locks with 2.8W input power in which we attempted the handoff to DC.  We measured the DARM loop gain and set the UGF to be at the maximum of the phase bubble to make the transition as stable as possible (30Hz, ~30deg margin).  We experimented with different DARM offsets and settled on 5e-5 counts; with a preliminary calibration of 3x10^-7 m/ct this corresponds to an offset of 15pm.  The carrier TEM00 mode was somewhat larger than expected (see the attached pdf, peak at ~43 volts), about 15mA in DCPD sum, almost as much as the 45MHz sidebands.  We used this DARM offset for the rest of the evening.

We measured the OMC-DCPD_SUM --> DARM_IN1 transfer function and adjusted the OMC-READOUT_SCALE factor and LSC-OMC_DC_OFFSET to enable the handoff from AS45_Q.  The values we used are an offset of -2.33e-05 counts and a gain of -2e-6, these values were tuned at the few percent level in subsequent locking attempts to match gains as well as possible.  (Note that the gain comes before the offset, which makes trimming a little more straightforward.)  After these were applied the OMC-to-DARM noise TF looked like Fig. 1.  At this point we attempted the handoff to DC.

This blew the lock.  We realized the OMC input to DARM was subject to the normalization factor of sqrt(NPTRX).  We implemented an awkward fix by holding the output of the TR_X and correcting for the power normalization in the OMC-->DARM input matrix element.  The correction factor is 6.25, this changed by ~1% from lock to lock.

After that, the handoff to low noise worked.  The OMC DCPDs currently have no whitening enabled because the ETMY violin modes (at 508.1 and 508.2 Hz) are rung up and even a single stage of whitening will saturate the ADC.  So, we are ADC noise limited above ~400Hz.  One of our next steps will have to be the commissioning of the violin mode damping.  The ETMY bounce mode is also rung up; so far this isn't a problem, and we are nervous about turning on the damping before we're ready to end the lock.  A spectrum of the DCPD noise is in Fig. 2.

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alexan.staley@LIGO.ORG - 23:56, Tuesday 10 February 2015 (16621)

We locked on DC readout at 22:45:00 PT on Feb 10, 2015. We unlocked after an hour due to the bounce mode ringing up in ETMY.

lisa.barsotti@LIGO.ORG - 00:39, Wednesday 11 February 2015 (16622)ISC
This is a trend of 9 Mhz sideband power and arm carrier over 10 hours. After the first few failed locking attempts earlier today, we went through the locking sequence step by step to isolate the offending transition (engaging a boost in the DARM loop). After modifying the boost, we had several consecutive successful locking sequences. The last lock in this plot is on DC readout (with growing bounce mode). Overall, the interferometer has been locked for about 6 hours today. Engaging the  BS angular loops  greatly improved power stability, and they have been working robustly for the last 3 locks.

We made an attempt to close CHARD as well, but we need to work on that more.

For the records, no wind at all today.
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koji.arai@LIGO.ORG - 00:30, Wednesday 11 February 2015 (16623)

Wow!

alexan.staley@LIGO.ORG - 00:57, Wednesday 11 February 2015 (16624)

Here is an OLTF of DARM on DC.

The template can be found here: /ligo/home/alexan.staley/Public/DARM/OMCDC_DARM_OLTF_20150211.xml

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alexan.staley@LIGO.ORG - 01:03, Wednesday 11 February 2015 (16625)

And just because ...

 

Some people were not that excited.

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daniel.hoak@LIGO.ORG - 01:44, Wednesday 11 February 2015 (16627)

A few notes about the noise:

 - The ISS first loop is off, has been since Tuesday maintenance.  The input intensity noise is about as bad as it could be.

 - The DCPD NULL channel is only a factor of ten below DCPD SUM, implying that our DCPD balance is not so good at the 10% level. (?)

 - As mentioned before, the switchable DCPD whitening is all off thanks to the violin mode.  We suspect this might be impressing noise onto the OMC length servo - we had to increase the amplitude of the length dither @ 3300Hz by a factor of ten.  There is a prominent comb of ~8Hz harmonics at high frequencies.

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david.shoemaker@LIGO.ORG - 03:59, Wednesday 11 February 2015 (16630)
Excellent! Yet again, Congratulations!
gabriela.gonzalez@LIGO.ORG - 04:32, Wednesday 11 February 2015 (16631)
Congratulations!!! 
stefan.ballmer@LIGO.ORG - 05:31, Wednesday 11 February 2015 (16633)
You guys are on a role! Fantastic!
fred.raab@LIGO.ORG - 07:45, Wednesday 11 February 2015 (16637)
Great news to wake up to after return from India. Congratulations!
joe.giaime@LIGO.ORG - 07:48, Wednesday 11 February 2015 (16638)
Congratulations from your LLO colleagues!
david.reitze@LIGO.ORG - 07:49, Wednesday 11 February 2015 (16639)
Fantastic! Amazing progress in the past few weeks!  The picture is great -- Daniel and Evan look positively thrilled.
H1 SEI (DetChar, SYS)
jeffrey.kissel@LIGO.ORG - posted 23:06, Tuesday 10 February 2015 - last comment - 11:42, Wednesday 11 February 2015(16619)
Treatise on The HEPI Pump Servo
J. Kissel, B. Abbott

Over the past few weeks, I've been building up understanding of the HEPI pump servo -- more than I ever wanted to know. 

The conclusions from all this?
(1) The EPICs calculation of the PID loop (documented loosely in the EPICs manual here)
     (a) uses backwards differentiation approximation and velocity formalism to compute the *change* in control output value, which it then adds it to the previous cycle's control output value -- which turns it back into a "position" algorithm -- i.e. one *doesn't* have to differentiate the pole and two zeros of the P, I and D. Other good references I found are here, here, and here.
     (b) expects the "I" and "D" terms in [cycles / min] or [mins / cycle], respectively, i.e. it depends on the sampling rate / clock cycle turn-around time of the PID calculation. If you want to do any sane prediction of the filter shape, you've got to convert these to [rad/s] or [s/rad], again respectively, by multiplying by 60/(2*pi*Ts) [(min/sec).(rad/cycle)] or (2*pi*Ts)/60[(cycle/rad).(sec/min)].
(2) The EPICs turn-around time, or clock cycle, for the discrete PID controller calculation is longer than the requested sampling frequency, which means the sampling rate is determined by the clock-cycle. Further, it's slower in the corner station than the end stations. We should lower the EPICs record's demand of the sampling frequency from 10 [Hz] to 1 [Hz] (and check again if the PID can turn around the calculation fast enough).
(3) The HEPI Pump servo contains a second-order, 16 [Hz], Sallen-Key, anti-aliasing filter before the input to the ADC on all pressure sensor channels (see D0901559, pg 2)
(3) We should lower the PID parameters such that the UGF of the loop is ~ 1 [mHz]. Why?
     (a) The pressure sensors were never meant to be used as AC sensors. LHO aLOG 16500 hints that they shouldn't be used in a loop above a few [mHz].
     (b) The ADC noise of the Athena II, PC 104 computer is an abysmal 1e-2 [V/rtHz]. As they are currently amplified, the pressure sensor's signal gets buried in this ADC noise by ~10 [mHz].
     (c) Adding an EPICs "smoothing" parameter (a.k.a. SMOO) to the EPICs version of the pressure sensor channels adds a single-pole low-pass filter into the control loop. If sufficiently low in frequency, it'll start to creep in on your already-small phase margin. We should use this with caution, or at least be cognizant of its impact.

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Details.

I attach 5 plots per pump station:

Pg 1: On the EPICs turn around time defining the sampling rate
In my perusing of the EPICs manual, I found that the PID channel, e.g. H1:HPI-PUMP_EX_PID, has sub records, one of which is "DT," which one can query with a simple caget:
jeffrey.kissel@opsws8:/$ caget H1:HPI-PUMP_EX_PID.DT
H1:HPI-PUMP_EX_PID.DT          0.312006
This is "the time difference in seconds between processing steps." Consequently, I caget'd this sub record 5000 times. This turned out to be faster than the EPICs calc record would update the number by 3, so I took every third report. Then I histogrammed the results, to find that the clock cycle is 0.55 and 0.28 [sec] (!!) for the corner station and both end stations, respectively. The end stations show some clock jitter, but I took the mode of the 1667 points and used that as the clock cycle. This immediately informs us that the features seen in all ASDs that happen at 1.8 [Hz] and 3.5 [Hz] at the corner and end stations are just a function of the terribly slow sampling rate -- even slower than the EPICs 16 [Hz], and the request calc record rate of 10 [Hz].

Pg 2: On EPICs Implementation Discrete PID Control
It's too difficult in a simple text editor to really do the explanation any justice, but check out all of the references I show above, while you wait for coherent presentation version of this aLOG. One of the many reasons why my initial guess at what the servo was doing (in LHO aLOG 16447) was incorrect was because I wasn't accounting to the time delay of the discretization. As I found out later, it turned out that the discretization was much slower that was defined in the EPICs calc record.

Pg 3: Modifying the measured plant (see LHO aLOG 16601) with the anti-aliasing filter, and an EPICs smoothing filter 
On the SMOOOOOOO at EY
Hugh's initial instinct to combat the newly-noisy differential signal was to add some EPICs sub-record defined "smoothing factor" to the supply and return channels which form the differential pressure signal. Again, from the EPICs manual, 
"The converted data value is subjected to the following algorithm:
val = newvalue * (1 - smoo) + oldvalue * smoo
SMOO should be a value between 0 and 1, with 0 meaning no smoothing and one meaning ultimate smoothing (in fact the data will never change)."
*sigh* who writes these manuals? Thank god they wrote out the algorithm. This is just the discrete realization of a first order low-pass filter. The pole frequency of which is defined by
f_{pole} = 1/(2*pi*Ts) * ln(1 / (1 / alpha))

Hugh had entered in a SMOO of 0.75, which at a dismal sampling rate of Ts = 0.28 [sec], means the pole frequency is at 0.159 [Hz], which explains *some* of the excess gain peaking that we see at EY. 

Pg 4: Loop Design figures of merit given the now-(mostly)-understood plant and controller

Pg 5: Model of closed loop ASD noise
Clearly I'm still missing some phase loss term that increases the gain peaking, but at least I get the suppression correct. I could hunt around for several more days as to why this is, and find some other nasty EPICs trickery. But I'm not gunna.
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hugh.radkins@LIGO.ORG - 11:42, Wednesday 11 February 2015 (16649)
To be clear regarding Jeff's statement:
 
Hugh's initial instinct to combat the newly-noisy differential signal was to add some EPICs sub-record defined
"smoothing factor" to the supply and return channels which form the differential pressure signal
 
Attached is 180 days of pressure trends. There is no transition to "newly-noisy" at the ends.  End X has always been noisy, End Y went quieter when I started smoothing those records 7 November, 14926.  Now trends of the corner station tells a different story.  You can see a few transitions in the widths of the Max & Mins.  As I will continue to say, something on the servo box/board is not grounded/isolated or something well enough or there has been something damaging occur to the them.  It was never good at the Ends as I noticed the noisy signals there as compared to the corner, then I screwed up something and the corner station went as bad as the ends.
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H1 ISC (ISC)
thomas.abbott@LIGO.ORG - posted 19:44, Tuesday 10 February 2015 (16618)
IR Beam Center Estimation for ETMX
Thomas, Elli

We are interested in developing a way to measure the beam location on a test mass using camera images of the test mass. This can potentially be used for interferometer alignment.

This method is based on the PCal beam localization procedure. (See T1500039 for more details on the procedure.)

We used the Pcal camera on the ETMX to take a picture during full IFO lock. One can clearly see the red beam scattering off the test mass. To locate the center of the beam we fit a 2D gaussian to the beam scatter pattern in the image.  

The PCal camera is at a 10deg angle to the optic face.  We fit an ellipse to the image of the optic edge to work out its exact  orientation with respect to the camera. The we use this fit to locate the center of the optic, and the location of the center of the IR beam.  

Tonight we measure the IR beam location at {X,Y]=[-4.6mm,-20mm] +/- 5mm offset from the center of the optic.  This is a tentative result, we will put further thought into whether our beam fitting procedure has any sneaky assumptions in it.  
We also could reduce the uncertainty in this result by tweaking camera settings in order to better fit the optic edge.  The illuminator in BSC9 is on (it has been on since 19 December), turning this off would also help our cause.
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H1 ISC
daniel.sigg@LIGO.ORG - posted 19:44, Tuesday 10 February 2015 (16617)
Tidal Feedback during 3 hour lock

The attached plot shows the tidal feedback signals during the 3.1 hour lock with the common correction on. There was about 150µm of motion in the y arm and about 100µm in the x arm, while the IMC stayed within a 100 KHz of nominal with no visible drift. The L1 drives of of both ETMs stay within 2µm of zero.

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H1 SUS (DetChar, SUS)
nutsinee.kijbunchoo@LIGO.ORG - posted 19:40, Tuesday 10 February 2015 - last comment - 09:03, Thursday 12 February 2015(16614)
Violin Mode Identified

I have measured the violin mode using the most recent lock data (February 10th ~5pm). Due to the lack of precisions in the existing information and the mismatch in values I was not able to identify any of the peak except for the ITMX BR (Back Right) at 499.9 Hz. The violin mode found in the recent lock data are as follow:

499.9, 505.58, 505.71, 505.80, 505.85, 505.92, 506.92, 507.16, 507.20, 507.36, 508.01, 508.15, 508.20, 508.85 Hz 

The (fundamental harmonic) violin mode is expected to be somewhere between 500Hz and 520 Hz. Not every line is present - possibly due to high noise floor.

 

The violin mode has been previously identified as follow:

ITMY (alog11184) Frequency (Hz) Bin Width (Hz)
BL 501.5 0.25
BR 501.3 0.25
FL 504.2 0.25
FR 502.8 0.25
ETMY (alog9359)    
BL 508 0.125
BR 508.1 0.125
FL 507.9 0.125
FR 507.6 0.125
ITMX (alog11044)    
BL 501.2 0.06
BR 499.9 0.06
FL 502.2 0.06
FR 500.8 0.06
ETMX (alog6858)    
BL 505 ?
BR 506.5 ?
FL 506.5 ?
FR 505 ?

 

Positions of the wire:

BL = Back Left

BR = Back Right

FL = Front Left

FR = Front Right

 

Where's left and where's right you ask? I'm trying to find the answer myself!

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angus.bell@LIGO.ORG - 09:03, Thursday 12 February 2015 (16686)
The designations back, front, left and right refer to looking at the reflective coating of the optic - so looking at the mirror from inside the arm.
Don't forget that each mode will be split by about 0.07 Hz (based on LLO fibers) with relative amplitudes dependent on orientation of the fiber axes.
H1 General (DetChar)
john.zweizig@LIGO.ORG - posted 19:18, Tuesday 10 February 2015 (16616)
L1/H1 SenseMon FOM at LHO
I have started a SenseMon instance running on the dewhitened H1:OAF-CAL_DARM_DQ channel. The lock detection uses the guardian ISI lock channel as recommended by Jamie. I have set up a dmtviewer configuration to plot both the L1 and H1 ranges. The dmtviewer file is in 

   /opt/rtcds/userapps/release/isc/h1/scripts

and is called HL-Range.xml. I also added a script to set the DMTWEBSERVER environment variable so that it can find the web servers at both observatories. This is in the same directory and can be run from bash with 

   cd /opt/rtcds/userapps/release/isc/h1/scripts
  source dmtvsetup 

Then run dmtviewer with e.g.

  dmtviewer HL-Range.xml &

Note that this requires kerberos authentication so you must kinit and supply a key tab or username/password.

 
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