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LHO VE
jordan.vanosky@LIGO.ORG - posted 16:18, Wednesday 09 April 2025 - last comment - 20:55, Wednesday 09 April 2025(83840)
Replacement of HAM6 Turbopump

Travis, Melina, Jordan

Per the updated HAM6 VE drawing (D0901823), we moved the HAM6 turbopump and pump out spool from the top D7 flange to the -Y door BF3 port. The 12"CF ->10" CF adapter, gate valve, pump out spool and turbo pump were removed and replaced with a single 12"CF blank on the D7 flange. We also replaced the turbo with a 500 l/s Leybold maglev turbo compatible with the SS500 pump carts.

The turbo assembly (with GV closed) was pumped down and helium leak checked. Each joint sprayed with a 5s dwell of He, no signal observed above the leak detector background of 3.6E-10 Torr-l/s. Remaining chamberside flanges will be He leak checked during corner pumpdown.

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janos.csizmazia@LIGO.ORG - 20:55, Wednesday 09 April 2025 (83847)
Nice work, guys! Looks great!
H1 ISC (SUS)
camilla.compton@LIGO.ORG - posted 15:00, Wednesday 09 April 2025 - last comment - 16:15, Wednesday 09 April 2025(83836)
All ISC/SUS components removed from HAM1 table

Rahul, Elenna, Oli, TJ, Camilla, Jim, Betsy. WP12419

Following yesterday's work 83820, this morning we removed all remaining ISC components on HAM1. Rahul removed RM1, RM2 and the SEI 10kg weights (bolts are in foil pouches with the weights).

Everything has been placed on a rack in the HAM1 cleanroom, labeled photo attached. The beamdumps are ordered as shown, BD17 and 18 are the largest plates (BD naming convention in D1000313 v17 Cartoon). Which pan each optic is in has been added to the D1000313 googledoc along with any optic serial numbers that could be read, our current working copy of the document is attached

After lunch, TJ removed the platforms/stairs around HAM1 and Rahul, Jim and I removed all the ISC and SUS cables. All DB-25s were stored in foil in the ISC components rack (bottom shelf) and the RF cables have been given to Fil for rework. 

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rahul.kumar@LIGO.ORG - 15:27, Wednesday 09 April 2025 (83837)

Adding a picture of the HAM1 table after all the components were removed.

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jennifer.wright@LIGO.ORG - 16:15, Wednesday 09 April 2025 (83839)EPO

Tagging EPO for pic.

LHO VE
david.barker@LIGO.ORG - posted 10:16, Wednesday 09 April 2025 (83832)
Wed CP1 Fill

Wed Apr 09 10:11:18 2025 INFO: Fill completed in 11min 14secs

 

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H1 SUS (SEI, SUS)
jeffrey.kissel@LIGO.ORG - posted 09:35, Wednesday 09 April 2025 (83831)
Take Two: SR3 M1 SUS comparison between all DOFs -- In-Air TFs Exports of DTT Templates Fixed
J. Kissel, B. Lantz, E. Bonilla, O. Patane

Very alarmed but how *apparently* different the in-air vs. in-vac TFs for H1SUSSR3 were -- see original plots in LHO:83818, and alarmed commentary in LHO:83819 -- Brian suggested "are you *sure* you've plotted the same DOF to DOF comparison on some of these plots?"

He was right. I re-exported both the 2024-08-01 in-air transfer function set and 2024-08-08 in-vacuum set from the DTT templates. The in-air TF's exported text files showed a diff with what was in the svn on the L, T, V, and Y drives. So, all the TFs that were "very interesting" in the above mentioned commentary were "very interesting" because they were comparing apples to oranges, and treating that orange as an apple.

So, here, I attach the same comparison for SR3, but with the fixed in-air data set.


                 D R I V E   D O F 
          L     T     V     R     P     Y

     L    --    meh   nd    meh   eand  YI
 
R    T    meh    --   meh   eand  meh    meh
E 
S    V    YI    YI    --    YI   nd    YI
P
     R    YI    eand  YI    --    YI    meh
D 
O    P    eand  VI    YI    meh   --    meh
F
     Y    YI    nd    meh    nd    nd   --

Recall the legend is 
  VI = Very Interesting (and unmodeled); very different between vac and air.
esVI = Modeled, but Still Very Interesting; very different between vac and air
  YI = Yes, Interesting. DC response magnitude is a bit different between vac and air, but not by much and all the resonances show up at roughly the same magnitude.
 meh = The resonant structure is different in magnitude, but probably just a difference in measurement coherence
eand = The cross coupling is expected, and not different between air and vac.
  nd = Not Different (and unmodeled). The cross-coupling is there, but it doesn't change from air to vac.


Thankfully, 
- there are WAY less "very interesting," only the T to P (page 22) remains.
- the matrix is more symmetric, and
- the changes between air and vac are LOT less dramatic.

We'll continue to discuss.
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LHO VE
jordan.vanosky@LIGO.ORG - posted 09:24, Wednesday 09 April 2025 (83830)
Morning Purge Air Checks 4-9-25

Morning dry air skid checks, water pump, kobelco, drying towers all nominal.

Dew point measurement at YBM in prep for BSC1/8 work, -42C

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H1 CDS
david.barker@LIGO.ORG - posted 08:37, Wednesday 09 April 2025 - last comment - 17:10, Wednesday 09 April 2025(83828)
MX weather station wind speed sensor not working

Starting around 22:13 Tue08apr2025 the MX weather station wind speed anemometer stopped recording. The other MX sensors, for example outside temperature, continue to run.

Attachment shows wind speed and temp for EX top row, and for MX bottom row.

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david.barker@LIGO.ORG - 08:46, Wednesday 09 April 2025 (83829)
david.barker@LIGO.ORG - 17:10, Wednesday 09 April 2025 (83846)

Literally minutes after I made this alog, unbeknownst to me, it fixed itself. I drove to MX this afternoon and visually confirmed the paddles were turning and appared to be unrestricted. The freeze between 10pm Tue and 9am Wed is still a mystery.

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H1 General
oli.patane@LIGO.ORG - posted 07:40, Wednesday 09 April 2025 (83827)
Ops Day Shift Start

TITLE: 04/09 Day Shift: 1430-2330 UTC (0730-1630 PST), all times posted in UTC
STATE of H1: Planned Engineering
OUTGOING OPERATOR: None
CURRENT ENVIRONMENT:
    SEI_ENV state: MAINTENANCE
    Wind: 4mph Gusts, 2mph 3min avg
    Primary useism: 0.01 μm/s
    Secondary useism: 0.21 μm/s
QUICK SUMMARY:

Plans for today:

LHO VE (VE)
travis.sadecki@LIGO.ORG - posted 18:24, Tuesday 08 April 2025 - last comment - 18:49, Tuesday 08 April 2025(83825)
2025 April vent - VAC diary

Today's activities:

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jordan.vanosky@LIGO.ORG - 18:49, Tuesday 08 April 2025 (83826)

Purge air dewpoint measured at YBM port of entry during BSC8 door removal. Dew point = -42C

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H1 AOS (SEI, SYS)
jason.oberling@LIGO.ORG - posted 18:16, Tuesday 08 April 2025 - last comment - 17:03, Wednesday 09 April 2025(83823)
WHAM1 Passive Stack Optical Table Pre-Deinstall Measurements (WP 12442)

J. Oberling, R. Crouch

Today we took pre-deinstall measurements of the position of the optical table surface of the WHAM1 passive stack.  The plan was to use the FARO to measure the coordinates of several bolt holes, using a threaded nest that locates the Spherically Mounted Retroreflector (SMR) precisely over the bolt hole, on both the +Y and -Y side of the chamber.  This, unfortunately, did not happen in full due to the untimely death of the FARO's climate sensor (or the FARO's ability to read the climate sensor, we're hoping for the former).  The FARO cannot function without this sensor as it relies on accurate measurements of the air temperature, relative humidity, and air pressure to feed into a model of the refractive index of air, which it needs to accurately calculate the SMR distance from the FARO.  We did manage to get a few points measured before the sensor died.  I've reached out to FARO tech support about getting a new climate sensor and should hear back from them tomorrow (they usually replay in 1 business day).

Summary

We were able to get measurements of 3 bolt holes, all in the furthest -Y line of bolt holes, and an old IAS monument from aLIGO install before the FARO's climate sensor died.  The results are listed below under the Results heading.  The most interesting thing here is there appears to be an error in WHAM1 placement in the x-axis, as the bolt holes we measured are all ~37.25 mm too far in the -X direction from nominal.  We also set a scale on the wall across from the -Y door of the WHAM1 chamber that is registered to the current elevation of the optical table; placing an autolevel so it sights 150.0 mm on this scale (sighting the side of the scale with the 0.5 mm tick marks) places that autolevel 150.0 mm above the surface of the passive stack's optical table.

Details

We started on the -Y side of the WHAM1 chamber.  The FARO was set with a good view of its alignment monuments and the passive stack's optical table.  We ran through the startup checks and calibrations without much issue (we did see a return of the odd 'ADM Checks Failing' error, which had been absent for about 1 month, but it immediately went away and didn't come back when we performed a Go Home operation).  FARO monuments F-CS026 through F-CS035, inclusive, were used to align the FARO to the LHO LVEA local coordinate system; the 2 standard deviation device position uncertainty after this alignment was 0.016 mm (PolyWorks does 100 Monte Carlo simulations of the device position).  This complete, we started measuring.

First, as a quick test of the alignment we took a look at old IAS monument LV24.  This monument was used to align the WHAM2 ISI during aLIGO install, and its nominal X,Y coordinates are [-20122.0, -3050.7] mm (there is no z-axis coordinate as we were not setting these in Z back then, a separate set of wall marks was used for z-axis alignment).  The results are shown in the 1st attached picture; again, ignore the z-axis results as I had to enter something for the nominal or PolyWorks wouldn't accept the entry, so I rounded to the closest whole number (this isn't even the surface of the monument, it's the point 2" above it where the SMR was, due to use of the Hubbs Center Punch Nest (which has a 2" vertical offset when using a 1.5" SMR)).  Knowing how we had to set these older monuments, since I'm one of the people that set them, I'm not entirely surprised by the X and Y deviations.  The monuments we set for aLIGO install (the LV monuments) were placed w.r.t. a set of monuments used to align iLIGO, which themselves were placed w.r.t. the monuments used to install the vacuum equipment during facility construction (the PSI monuments), which themselves were placed w.r.t. the BTVE monuments which define the interface between the arm beam tubes and the LVEA vacuum equipment, which we then found errors in their coordinates during our alignment of the FARO during the O4a/b commisioning break in 2024.  Not at all surprised that errors could have stacked up without notice over all of those monuments set off of monuments set off of monuments set off of...  Also, take note of the x-axis coordinate of this monument, this will be important later.

We then set about taking measurements of the passive stack optical table.  To map the bolt holes we measured we used an XY cartesian basis, assuming the bolt hole in the -X/-Y corner was the origin.  We then proceeded to increment the number by the bolt hole (not distance), following the same XY axis layout used for the IFO.  Using this scheme the bolt holes for the table corners were marked as:

We were able to get measurements for bolt holes (0,0), (14,0), and (25,0).  We were in the process of measuring bolt hole (36,0) (the +X/-Y corner bolt hole) when the FARO's climate sensor died.

To get the coordinates for the bolt holes I used the .EASM file for WHAM1 with the passive stack configuration located at D0901821-v4.  From the assembly, using eDrawings, I was able to get coordinates w.r.t. the chamber origin for the bolt holes we measured.  Those were then added to the coordinates for the WHAM1 chamber, in the LVEA local coordinate system, to get nominal coordinates for the bolt holes.  I also had to add 25.4 mm to the z-axis coordinates to account for the 1" offset of the nest we were using for the SMR; the center of the SMR sits 1" above the point being measured, so I needed to manually add that offset to the nominal z-axis coordinate of the bolt hole.  For reference, according to D0901821 the global coordinates for WHAM1 are [-22692.0, 0.0, 0.0] mm; when converted to the LVEA local coordinate system (removing the 619.5 µrad downward tilt of the X-arm) this becomes [-22692.0, 0.0, +14.1].  The measurement results are shown in the 2nd attached picture.  Notice those x-axis deviations?  Remember the measurement we made of LV24?  Clearly the FARO alignment is not 37 mm off, as the measurement of LV24 showed, so something is definitely up with the x-axis coordinate of the WHAM1 chamber (error in chamber placement?  aLIGO WHAM1 is the iLIGO WHAM2 chamber, moved from its old location next to WHAM3).

Results

We can do some analysis of the numbers we have, although limited since we only have 3 points in a line.  This really only applies to the furthest -Y line of bolt holes on the table, since we weren't able to get measurements of the +Y side to get a more full picture of where the table is sitting, but it's something.  Position tolerances at install in 2012 were +/-3.0 mm in all axes.

I do want to note that D0901821-v4 claims the table surface should be -187.8 mm in LVEA local coordinates (-201.9 mm in global), but this is not the number we used when installing the passive stack in 2012.  In 2012 we used -185.9 mm local (-200.0 mm global), as can be seen in D0901821-v2.  To compare our measurements to the install numbers I changed the nominal z-axis coordinate to match that of our install target (-185.9 + 25.4 mm SMR offset = -160.5 mm) and the results are shown in the final attached picture.

Wall Scale Registered to Current Table Surface Elevation

To finish, we set a scale on the -Y wall directly Crane East of the WHAM1 chamber and registered it to the current elevation of the passive stack's optical table.  To do this we used a scale provided by Jim (the scale was in inches, with 0.01" tick marks) and an autolevel.  We set the autolevel at a fixed elevation on the -Y side of the chamber.  The scale was then placed at each corner of the optical table, starting with the -X/+Y corner, and the autolevel was used to sight the scale; only the scale was moved, the autolevel was fixed (rotated only to follow the scale, but not moved otherwise).  We then averaged the 4 scale readings to get the table elevation, set the autolevel to this reading with the scale back at our starting point (we actually didn't have to move it, thankfully), and then set a scale on the wall using the autolevel.  The 4 scale readings:

The average of the 4 readings is 5.9", and since the autolevel was already sighting 5.9" on our starting point at the -X/+Y corner we left it there.  This may seem high, but we had to have the autolevel high enough that we could see over the various components mounted to the table surface.  We then turned the autolevel and set a scale on the wall.  This scale was in mm (since that's what we had), but this worked out OK.  5.9" is ~149.9 mm (149.86 mm to be exact), so we set the wall scale so it read ~149.9 mm when sighted through the autolevel.  So a 150.0 mm reading on this scale (sighting the side with the 0.5 mm tick marks) is ~150.0 mm above the current position of the passive stack's optical table.

This closes LHO WP 12442.

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jason.oberling@LIGO.ORG - 17:03, Wednesday 09 April 2025 (83842)

TJ O'Hanlon informed me via email that there indeed was an error in the x-axis coordinate at both LHO and LLO, due to the thickness of the septum between HAM1 and HAM2 not being taken into account, which had not been propagated to all of the SYS mechanical layout drawings (and some of the CAD files as well).  I had completely forgotten about this, and explains why we had moved the WHAM1 passive stack monument LV25 further in the -X direction some time back in 2012; the first attached picture shows this (the clear cut out next to the existing monument was the old position of LV25 before we moved it).  I went spelunking through my old 2012 emails to find some communication about this, but all I could find was an email chain re: LLO setting the LHAM6 support tubes and not being able to get them in the proper y-axis position.  Dennis replied that this was due to the septum thickness and would apply to HAM1 and HAM6 at both sites, and that he would update E1200625 with the correct coordinates for all involved chambers.  From E1200625 the x-axis coordinate of WHAM1 should be -22726.7 mm, so I have updated the PolyWorks project with this new, correct coordinate; this is shown in the 2nd attached picture.

From this I can now say that the -Y row of holes on the WHAM1 passive stack's optical table are ~2.56 mm too far in the -X direction.  If we were to use the FARO to survey monument LV25 my guess is that would explain the 2.5 mm error, seeing as how nearby LV24 was also ~2.0 mm too far in -X direction.  As stated in the main alog this difference doesn't exactly surprise me given the "monuments placed off of monuments placed off of monuments" situation we have here.  The FARO was aligned to our X and Y axes using monuments PSI-1, PSI-2, PSI-6, and BTVE-1, so any error between these 1st and 2nd generation monuments and the 4th generation LV monuments will be measured by the FARO.

While I was at it I went ahead and applied the required transform for local to global coordinates.  This is done by creating a new coordinate system and applying the requisite tilt of both the X and Y axes.  The tilt must be entered in degrees and for the opposite axis.  This is because our, for example, y-axis tilt angle w.r.t. local gravity is a rotation of the x-axis.  Since PolyWorks works off of axis rotation, we enter the y-axis angle as an x-axis tilt (same for the x-axis angle).  To get PolyWorks to correctly calculate the transform matrix both values should be entered as positive numbers (I'm not entirely sure why).  The values to enter:

  • X-axis rotation: 0.0000125 µrad -> 0.0007162°
  • Y-axis rotation: 0.0006195 µrad -> 0.0354947°

The calculated transform matrix is shown in the 4th attached picture, which properly matches Table 10 in T980044 (note, the numbers in the transform matrix are in radians, even though I had to enter the rotations in degrees).  To confirm this was correct I manually calculated the correct global z-axis coordinate using the formula in Section 2.3 of T0900340 for each bolt hole; the results were the same between my calculation and PolyWorks'.  The final picture shows the bolt hole survey in the LHO global coordinate frame.

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H1 SEI
jim.warner@LIGO.ORG - posted 17:01, Tuesday 08 April 2025 - last comment - 11:59, Wednesday 09 April 2025(83824)
Dial indicators added on -X of HAM1, 2/4 HEPI actuators disconnected

This morning, we added dial indicators to the ends of the support tubes to monitor the support tube locations on the -X side. We had to remove a cable tray to get room to do this under the chamber. They are protected under the chamber, but there is a bunch of loose cabling on that side that could bump my set up. Unfortunately, we don't have access to the northside. Not quite sure how to track the support tube ends on the +X side when we float HEPI yet.

While Betsy and crew were pulling parts in chamber, Mitch and I were disconnecting actuators at the piers. Vertical actuators are quite difficult, access is very tight, going to be hard reconnecting them. Horizontal actuators are a lot easier, but we are adding .100" shims and bolts to protect the bellows and IPS, we lost a couple shims inside one of the actuators and it was a struggle to fish them out. We are adding wires to the shims going forward to prevent that mishap. We'll get the other 2 actuators tomorrow. So far dial indicators show we are still in the same spot as before disconnecting the actuators.

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jim.warner@LIGO.ORG - 11:59, Wednesday 09 April 2025 (83834)

All 4 actuators are disconnected now, we'll move to passive stack de-install after lunch. Dial indicators we have move .002", but that could very well just be drift in my set up.

H1 ISC
elenna.capote@LIGO.ORG - posted 16:45, Tuesday 08 April 2025 - last comment - 16:19, Monday 21 April 2025(83820)
First Half of HAM1 table cleared

[Betsy, Camilla, Elenna, Oli]

We cleared half of the HAM1 table today on the +y side. This cleared optics on the ALS and POP paths, and the first part of the optics on the REFL path. We carefully labeled each component, and Oli logged component and cable names with serial numbers. Betsy laid the components in clean pans lined with cleanroom cloths. The cables are still attached to the feedthroughs and were left lying at the bottom of the chamber.

Attached photos show cleared side of the table.

Before removing components, we reviewed the table layout after Ibrahim and TJ noticed some discrepancies between the solidworks drawing and the optic locations as depicted in Corey's pictures from yesterday. We confirmed that there are some dispcrepancies between the two. TJ has a more detailed report.

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camilla.compton@LIGO.ORG - 16:48, Tuesday 08 April 2025 (83822)

Before we started, Betsy and I replaced the septum plate VP cover we had removed yesterday 83798

Layout before: D1000313-v15

camilla.compton@LIGO.ORG - 16:19, Monday 21 April 2025 (84035)EPO

Added photo of myself, Betsy, Melina and Elenna before the HAM1 ISC removal work started. 

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H1 General
oli.patane@LIGO.ORG - posted 16:38, Tuesday 08 April 2025 (83821)
Ops Day Shift End

TITLE: 04/08 Day Shift: 1430-2330 UTC (0730-1630 PST), all times posted in UTC
STATE of H1: Planned Engineering
INCOMING OPERATOR: None
SHIFT SUMMARY:

More vent work today. I was able to mark some things fully or partially done, but others I'm unaware of their current status

DONE            FAC - 2nd Cleaning BSC8
DONE            Investigate large shifts in trends of PRM and PR2 in YAW (83807, 83808)
DONE            IAS - HAM1 Stack table survey
PARTIALLY   JIM/MITCH - HAM1 Offload HEPI Setup, disconnect actuators
PARTIALLY   ISC - HAM1 - ISC component removal
PARTIALLY   VAC/FAC - BSC8 Door Off - CRANE to Caddy
                       VAC - Start Feedthru Swap
                       EE - HAM4-5 Cable tray work - Ken, some Crane usage
                       IAS - HAM1 support tube ends?


LOG:                                                                                                       

Start Time System Name Location Lazer_Haz Task Time End
14:44 FAC Kim, Nelly LVEA n Tech clean (HAM1, restock) 17:26
14:56 FAC Eric HAM Shack n Annual maintenance 16:38
15:10   Betsy LVEA n Taking to FAC 15:25
15:23 VAC Jordan LVEA N Dew point check 15:36
15:34 IAS Jason, RyanC LVEA n FAROing 18:57
15:51 VAC Jordan, Melina EX n Checking on ion pump 16:22
15:52   Betsy OpticsLab n Prepping to recrimp cables 16:55
15:53 FAC Tyler LVEA, HAM Shack n Checking on things 19:07
16:25 EE Marc CER n Grabbing label maker 16:35
16:58   Corey, Mitchell MY n Grabbing tooling 17:28
17:01 SUS Betsy LVEA N BSC8 Dust Count Check 17:20
17:02 FAC Chris, Pest Control LVEA n Pest control 18:06
17:03   TJ Mech Room n Checking out dust monitors 17:10
17:08 ISI Jim LVEA n Checking if HAM1 is ready 17:45
17:12   TJ LVEA n Checking dust monitor 17:44
17:50 FAC Kim, Nellie EX N Technical cleaning 18:43
17:54 SEI Jim, Mitchell LVEA n HAM1 work 18:01
18:00 VAC Jordan, Melina, Travis LVEA n Start removal of HAM6 turbo pump 19:16
18:01   Mitchell, Jim HAM Shack n Looking for parts 18:15
18:06 FAC Chris LVEA N Equipment check 18:57
18:12 PEM Robert LVEA n Talking to VAC 18:34
18:13   TJ LVEA N Dust monitor test 18:24
18:15 SUS Jim, Mitchell LVEA N HEPI Offload 19:37
18:26 ISC Betsy, Camilla LVEA n Prepping for stuff removal at HAM1 19:15
19:07   Josh, Jeff, +2 LVEA n Tour 19:46
19:42 FAC Travis, Jordan, Randy LVEA N BSC8 Door move 00:19
20:18 ISC Betsy, Elenna, Camilla LVEA n Checking HAM1 layout discrepencies 23:20
20:25   Richard LVEA n Walkabout 22:28
20:52 FAC Tyler, Alpine roofing EY n Looking at roof 21:44
20:58 EE Marc CER n labeling 21:44
20:59   Mitchell, Jim LVEA n HAM1 feedthrough 23:27
21:42   TJ LVEA n Talking about discrepencies 21:58
22:01 VAC Travis MX/MY N Conflat blank 22:29
22:04 FAC Ryan C LVEA N Dust monitor check 22:38
22:29   Oli LVEA N HAM1 deinstall help 23:20
22:30 VAC Travis LVEA N Turbo Swap 00:30
22:30 FAC Richard LVEA N Walkabout + Headcount 22:44
22:49 FAC Tyler, Water contractor Water Tank N Continuing potable water restoration work 00:49
23:35   RyanC LVEA n Checking on dust monitor 00:05
H1 PEM
ryan.crouch@LIGO.ORG - posted 16:19, Tuesday 08 April 2025 (83817)
Dust monitor trend monthly - FAMIS

Closes FAMIS37251

There's some known issues right now with the dust monitors. We can still see LAB1 not writting to the network, EY died for about a day, LVEA5 not writting anything for a few days, TJ swapped this one today with one from staging. The counts were not exactly as expected across both particle sizes, so I'm going to test this one a little more.

I brought LVEA5 over to LVEA10 in the biergarten and tested them side by side and saw similar results, I also did the zero count test on LVEA5 which it passed.

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H1 SUS
oli.patane@LIGO.ORG - posted 14:23, Tuesday 08 April 2025 - last comment - 15:32, Tuesday 08 April 2025(83818)
SR3 M1 SUS comparison between all DOFs

Jeff asked me to plot a comparison for SR3 M1 between all degrees of freedom comparing it in vacuum versus in air. I've plotted the last two measurements taken for SR3 from last August at the end of the OFI vent. One measurement was taken in air, and the other was taken in vacuum The pressure for the in vacuum measurement wasn't all the way down to our nominal, but as Jeff said in his alog at the time when we were running these measurements: "most of the molecules are out of the chamber that would contribute to buoyancy, so the SUS are at the position they will be in observing-level vacuum" (79513).

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jeffrey.kissel@LIGO.ORG - 15:32, Tuesday 08 April 2025 (83819)CSWG, SEI, SYS
Calling out the "interesting" off-diagonal elements:
                 D R I V E   D O F 
          L     T     V     R     P     Y

     L    --    nc    nc    meh   eand  YI
 
R    T    nc    --    YI    eand  nc    meh
E 
S    V    meh   YI    --    meh   nc    YI
P
     R    VI    esVI  VI    --    YI    VI
D 
O    P    esVI  VI    YI    meh   --    YI
F
     Y    YI    nc    nc    nc    nc   --

Here's the legend to the matrix, in order of "interesting":
  VI = Very Interesting (and unmodeled); very different between vac and air.
esVI = Modeled, but Still Very Interesting; very different between vac and air
  YI = Yes, Interesting. DC response magnitude is a bit different between vac and air, but not by much and all the resonances show up at roughly the same magnitude.
 meh = The resonant structure is different in magnitude, but probably just a difference in measurement coherence
eand = The cross coupling is expected, and not different between air and vac.
  nd = Not Different (and unmodeled). The cross-coupling is there, but it doesn't change from air to vac.
I've bolded everything above "meh" to help guide the eye.

Recapping in a different way, because the plots are merged in a really funky order,
  VI = L to R (pg 14), 
       T to P (pg 22),
       Y to R (pg 33)

esVI = T to R (pg 16)
       L to P (pg 20)

  YI = L to Y (pg 28), Y to L (pg 27),
       T to V (pg 12), V to T (pg 11),  
       V to P (pg 24),
       P to R (pg 25), 
       Y to V (pg 31),
       Y to P (pg 35)


What a mess! 
The matrix of interesting changes is NOT symmetric across the diagonal
The matrix has unmodeled cross-coupling that *changes* between air and vac
For the elements that are supposed to be there, (like L to P / P to L and T to R / R to T), the cross coupling different between air and vacuum.
For some elements, the cross-coupling is *dramatically worse* at *vac* than it is at air.

Why is there yaw to roll coupling, and why is it changing between air and vacuum??

There's clearly more going on here than just OSEM sensor miscalibration that the Stanford team found with PR3 data in LHO:83605. These measurements are a mere 8 days apart!

The plan *was* to use SR3 as a proxy during the vent to test out the OSEM estimator algorithm they were using to improve yaw, but ... with this much different between air and vac, I'm not so sure the in-air SR3 measurements to inform an estimator to be used at vacuum.
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